Did I buy stolen art/merchandise? Need your thoughts!

I need your thoughts. Little lengthy with pics but I want you to have good evidence to help me come to a conclusion.

Ok…..so I saw an ad on Craigslist. The picture was similar to this. But blurrier.

The ad said antique art. Gold frame in glass covered box.

I was only given a number, so I text’d the person running the ad.

Here was my confusion.

The “art” didn’t appear antique. Even from the blurry photo and didn’t seem to be the same “era” of the frame.

But what do I really know?

Next to nothing really. Except remember when I got lucky and got the Will Moses and Ruggeri? You can click on the names and catch up and enjoy a fun deal.

But let’s get back to this deal.

I text’d the guy and said…

“Hello. I’m texting about your antique art ad. I’m a little confused, is it in a box?”

I don’t know what made me suspicious but he text’d back.

“Is this the police!?”

Just teasing

For real though he gave me a very educated art dealer response.


Ok….I expected a little more detail.

So, I responded…”Can it be opened and the frame and art taken out?”

His detailed response….”It’s in the box.”

Well, I was rushing. I had to be somewhere yesterday and I had made a low ball offer of $20.00, he came back with $25.00 and I knew I wanted that frame for $25.00 or not. I wondered if it was an old display….I couldn’t figure it out.

So, yesterday I asked my hubby to make a CL pick up for me. He HATES to do that if I have not thoroughly checked it out because he knows he could come back and hear from me….”YOU BOUGHT THAT?” He took the risk because i said no matter what the frame was a good deal and I wanted it.

Which leads me to last night. He told me, I got the frame and I hate to say it but the people seemed a “little shifty”.

I was like….uh oh.

Locked glass case?

Antique art?

I casually said…”What made them seem shifty?”

He said, “Well, he wanted me to meet him behind an abandoned building and kept looking around and right away asked if I was followed?”


Just teasing again on that part.

For real, he said, “I hate even saying this….he just seemed thuggish.”

GREAT. Last time I get my hubby to make pick ups for me PLUS he will be paranoid any time I try to buy something now.

So, I said where is it? I want to see the frame.

Immediately and in person I noticed the art. I could tell it probably wasn’t the original art.

My clue? Not experience in the art world. It was this……

This is a fence that are along many areas of the beaches to protect the dunes.

They didn’t protect the dunes back in the “olden days”.


Thug+no clue what they were selling+encased in box=maybe stolen art.

But? The art didn’t seem valuable?

So, I turned it over.


They replaced the art!


I wondered….could it have been a display somewhere with valuable art and they stole it.

They were thuggish art thieves!ƂĀ  The thuggish mans wife had spoken in a foreign accent and my husband couldn’t even understand her. What if they had stolen this art over in another country and sell it here on CL to unsuspecting people like me!!!!!

What if I I had the valuable frame that probably had a Picasso in it and was hung in a museum!!!

What if?

The whole frame thing confused me though.

It wasn’t just where you could take it out of the box….It was like the box was built around it?

Would it destroy the frame if I took it out?


I even text’d the guy last night after I got home.

I was ticked about the art. It wasn’t antique and I knew that is probably why they had posted a blurry pic.

I text’d this….”Hello, my husband picked up the antique art that you had listed on CL today. The art is not antique, it is new? Do you have the art that went with the frame?” “Also, my husband thinks you are a thug and your wife a Russian art thief!”

Ok….I didn’t add the last part but I did text the first.

His response……”that is how it was when we got it.”

I didn’t ask anymore questions. I just wanted the frame and it was worth the 25.00.

It truly is even more gorgeous in person.

So, now you have the facts.

Your evidence.

What is your conclusion.

Before I give my latest thoughts after googling last night I want to see if any of you come to the same conclusion.

This is your “project.”

Did I buy stolen merchandise or just some painting aƂĀ  person who either inherited something they knew nothing about or bought at a yard sale sold on Craigslist?

I know I have a couple of art lovers out there. Do any of you know this signature?

I can’t wait to hear what you guys think?

I hope you don’t find out it is stolen.

I love my frame.

I’m hoping it is what I think it is……

I am curious to see if you think the same.

Let me know.

I can’t wait to hear what you think!





7 thoughts on “Did I buy stolen art/merchandise? Need your thoughts!

  • October 4, 2012 at 10:19 am

    well I am no art expert.After reading your post I wondered if they may have bought it from an auction or storage locker or something? there is a guy who lives near me and he is kinda “shady” looking and he buys storage lockers and get all kinds of things..

  • October 4, 2012 at 10:43 am

    I don’t know anything about art, new or old, but I did laugh my head off at your story!!

  • October 4, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    I am curious to see what you find out! I agree with Tracey Bradshaw, that ebay painting looks very similar and the signiture on your painting looks like it says “granger”. I hope you aren’t harboring a fugitive… or a hostage! šŸ™‚

  • October 5, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    Take your frame to a good antique dealer that sells a lot of art. Don’t worry about it. They probably bought it at a garage sale with the new/old painting in it. They must have had those “snow fences” on the dunes by the 30’s. Don’t paint the frame until you find out what it is worth.

  • July 26, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    Yes…I am guilty of reading blogs backward :^)
    Sooooo did you ever find out anything about the frame/art? Or are you just enjoying it the way it showed up??? Inquiring….ummmmm nosy minds need to know :^)
    Thanks for a great story that is leaving me with a big smile!!


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